Friday, June 26, 2009

The coolness factor

Ed Young is the senior pastor of Fellowship Church in Dallas - a non-denominational mega-church considered one of the fastest growing churches in the country. Recently, Ed spoke at a pastor's conference and shared his opinion about how pastors should act and, specifically, the dangers and irresponsibility of using profanity.

At the conference, Ed made it very clear that many words should never be uttered by pastors. These includes the biggies (I would give examples here but don't want to offend you) and some not-so biggies - at least in my opinion. Ed doesn't use the words, "crap", "screwed", "hell", "damn", or "sucks". I'm not sure if he's ok with the popular replacement cuss words like "heck", "dang", or "fudge". He thinks the reason some pastors use naughty words is that they are "chasing cool". For example, when I say, "crap", Ed thinks that I'm just trying to maintain my relevancy in today's culture. Ed says that's a cop-out. He's certainly entitled to his opinion but my problem and the problem with some pastors at the conference is that Ed created his own benchmark and said pastors weren't cutting it.

Irony of all ironies...Ed is the poster boy for cool. He wears the coolest clothes, has the coolest hair, and doesn't the coolest things from the church platform. In fact, Ed became ultra-cool when he preached a message on sex and challenged married couples in his congregation to have sex every day for 7 days - whether one of the partners wanted to or not. Now that's cool and for everyone who agreed to participate, they became cool, too.

Here's what a Dallas blogger and frequent attendee at Fellowship said:

The fact is, one person's cool is another person's relevant. One person's relevant is another person's reality. One person's reality is another person's damnation. [With regards to profanity] I think it's more likely that younger pastors are using what Ed considers profanity because for their younger generation it's no longer considered profanity. That's my two cents.

I think we need to be very careful when we (me included) start telling other pastors how to be a pastor. Here are some nuggets of wisdom that I've picked up along the way:

"You are really supposed to do it this way."
"You really shouldn't drink."
"You really shouldn't go to "R" rated movies (unless it's The Passion of the Christ)."
"You are supposed to read your Bible every day."
"You're doing something wrong if your kids are out of control."

In Acts, we learn about a rabbi named Gamaliel who drew criticism by many Christ-followers about how and what he taught. Paul was quick to silence Gamaliel's critics, defending the rabbi's passion to teach. He said that God would judge Gamaliel - it wasn't their job.

Ed Young may think "sucks" is a swear word and be offended I use it but my grandmother would be offended by a seven-day sex challenge. Taking offense at another Christian's actions doesn't automatically mean they're in the wrong. It also doesn't mean everything is admissible (this isn't relativism 101).

Let's get worked up over the big stuff like sharing the Message with people who don't know about Christ, teaching them about grace, and showing them that's there's room at God's table for everyone.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

THE OBJECTION IS TO BE MORE AND MORE CHRIST LIKE, THATS THE PURPOSE OF ALL GODS PEOPLE, TEACHERS, AND PASTORS. YOU MOVE TOWARD HIM NOT TOWARD YOUR OWN THOUGHTS. YOU'VE GOT THE BOOK, IT GIVES YOU THE ANSWERS.

Mike said...

Holy crap that is "f"ing hilarious. So many things to be said... so many that would be offensive... I'll leave it at that. ;O)

Mike said...

Ok one more.... can't help it. So I watched some of Mr. Young and maybe I'm missing something but my gaydar was going off like crazy... or maybe it's just my BS detector. ooops... I abbreviated a bad word there. Ummmm anyone that has their name written on everything scares me. Ed Young Tv, Ed Young Ministries... blah blah blah. Think he'll open up a an Ed Young Botox clinic? He's obviously benefited from that technology.

Pastor Bob Grenier said...

Hi Darrin. It's comforting to me to know that there is a standard and and authority for our lives, our conduct, and witness in Christ. I'm not that standard, nor are you, or anyone else. He is the standard, and His Word is a light and a lamp for us day by day.

The encouragement and direction from the Word that came to mind, is found in Eph 5:4* neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

I looked up that word coarse and found this from Thayer....Synonyms for Sins of the Tongue.

See definition for mwrologia 3473
See definition for aiscrologia 152
See definition for eutrapelia 2160

mwrologia, used only once in the N.T., is foolish talking, but this in the Biblical sense of the word foolish, which implies that it is also sinful. It is conversation which is first insipid, then corrupt. It is random talk, which naturally reveals the vanity and sin of the heart.

aiscrologia, also used once, means any kind of disgraceful language, especially abuse of others. In classical Greek it sometimes means distinctively language which leads to lewdness.

eutrapelia, occurring once, originally meant versatility in conversation. It acquires, however, an unfavorable meaning, since polished, refined conversation has a tendency to become evil in many ways. The word denotes, then, a subtle form of evil-speaking, sinful conversation without the coarseness which frequently accompanies it, but not without its malignity.

And, then, from a different angle, Col 4:6* Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one.

It makes me wonder what is going on in our world when we are even talking about things like is it ok, or not ok to use language that has generally been understood to be crude and offensive.

One last thing.....on the mention of Gamaliel, wasn't he actually speaking to his peers, i.e the religious leaders, and laying out a principle about what and who is really from God, and that time will tell so to speak. He was encouraging his peers to not fight against God if God was indeed at work in the apostles, and if not, then he was telling them not to worry about this new movement through the apostles.

Also, I'm thinking about what God did not call us to....i.e "Be cool, because I'm cool".

But, rather, 1Pe 1:15* but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
1Pe 1:16* because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”

Mike said...

Excellent post Bob. I think the point of all of this isn't necessarily the content of our language but the spirit and motive behind it. I think we can all agree that God's word is very clear on the wild and untamed nature of the tongue. Col 4:6 is a great example of how we are to edify, speak with grace... and Proverbs 18:21 tells us that the very nature of death and life are in the tongue. I tend to be extremely sarcastic when responding to (what I believe to be ridiculous) the meanderings of Ed Young. My objection isn't an argument for using crude language... but it's a cry against a pastor that is trying to incite his congregation to judgment and to pursue a course that pulls us away from things that are real. You are correct... why are we even discussing this? Why is Ed Young rallying against something so insignificant?

Pastor Bob Grenier said...

Thanks Mike.......